Ill look then up. Unfortunately, we dont have a residential model available. They are mulching blades made for mulching they work wonderfully with mulching kits. I have 2 acres I mow Is this too much acreage for a mulch kit?i feel like Im shortening the life of the mower by stressing it. Appreciate the input. Love the articles. It will last the life of the mower. cub cadet vs toro zero turn 2020. Small ZTRS like the Ariens compact should NEVER be operated on any kind of slope. Good to know that their ZTRs dont have the issue. While the side pockets and cup holders are fun, the cuppy space would do a better job at keeping items secure from flying out of the mower with all the plentiful vibrations. Gravely ZT HD 52: $5100 The reality of it is, these are nearing the top of the consumer zero turns, but are still a skip away from commercial units. Hi Frank, there is only one the Ryobi 38 inch rider. It seems to me Id get a stamped deck, better engine and some comfort things like arm rests if I do upgrade to the 50/52 in either model so the $400 may be very much worth it. Its the best choice in your price range. Toro TimeCutter SS Mulch Kit. The Ultima ZT2 will last. powerful 35hp v-twin kawasaki engine !!! I dont think youll be happy with Husqvarna 254 over the years. Cub Cadet. I then considered a Hustler Raptor SDX (cost too high) and the MZ54 Husqvarna (user reviews pretty negative). Yes, Toro is discontinuing their steering wheel models. Its very easy to switch from mulch to bag to side discharge. The Ikon XLs blades will last 3-5 years or longer and youll only need to sharpen them once a year. I believe youre right though on the 50 in for both. Hi Art, Good comment! I have 15 acres of grass with voles holes/tunnels, berms, bumpy grass and fences. If you still want to pick up the mulched leaves then get this sweeper> Agri-Fab 44 in. I also use the mulcher in the fall for leaves. Hi Jeffery, I have no preference between the Kawasaki and Kohler. However, some on the forums have reported using them in light commercial use for years with no issues. Agri-Fab Sweeper. In my area, Home Depot is still showing delivery April 30. When you buy the Ariens at a big box store you dont always get the same service after the sale as you do when you buy from a dealer. Which do you recommend to have the best cut and ability for the slope? A tractor mower on the other hand has the ability to collect grass, not a feature traditionally associated with a Zero turn. John deere Z540M with the Kawasaki engine 48 Home Depot has both the MX5075 and MX6050 available in CA compliant models. Equipment. The blade speed on zero-turn mowers is faster than on a lawn tractor so you can travel over the lawn faster and still get a great cut. If so, pros and cons and recommendations on the one you would go with. BTW Did you have a chance to look at the Bradley frame compared to the Bobcat? CR members with digital access can read on for ratings and reviews of the 12 best lawn tractors, zero-turn mowers, and rear-engine riders on the market right now. which is more solid and reliable unit? They both use a collection of Kawasaki, Kohler, and in-house engines (for the Toro TimeCutter) to function effectively. Check out my article here on the Toro Titan. Let me start with the cart. Not so much focused on comfort. Both have the same Kawasaki engine and appear pretty similar on the surface. Hi Robert, On paper, the Liberty Z meets all the criteria for a good $4500 ZTR. The Courier is one of the lowest-rated mowers by Consumer Reports for every category they test. I was looking at getting a new mower. Ive owned them since 1997 and they have never let me down. (Most commercial decks depth are 5-6 inches) fuel type: gas. A zero-turn is the same way, Too much weight on the rear hitch will cause the front end to be light and even lift off the ground going up a hill. It one of the best riding ZTRs on the market. Keep the ZTR off slopes more than 15 degree and change the air filter every 50 hours or less and it will give you a long life. The Z930M is the most popular John Deere mower for commercial operators. I can get 10% off at HD or Lowes so I plan to buy from one of them unless I find other deals I cant pass up. Your site here and responsiveness is some of the best I have seen in my researching journey. This is the only reason I havent bought one yet. Disappointed that the Toro no longer is available with the Kawasaki engine. I think thats unfair. Its pretty common to go through a belt a year with the with MTD 42 and 46-inch decks made before 2015. Seems to be the biggest difference is the forged deck? Any ideas? Even though the Ultima is twice the cost of the tractor it will win when you look at the real cost of ownership especially for using it commercially. 4. I also like the Gravely/Ariens in that price range. Other than that I dont have a preference. The Toro is the same engine that This feature aces in saving time and increases the general effectiveness of mowing. Walker and Country Clipper. I mow 2 1/2 acres with some inclines and trees. Lay on the ground on the non-discharge side of the mower. I managed to ride it up and down the hillside a couple of times before it died on me. Ive used a California trimmer reel mower for the past 6 years, but want less maintenance and speed. Consider the size and shape of your yard. The MX6050 has ZT 2800 and the TimeCutter HD ZT-3100. Thanks for taking the time to answer. Hi Daron, Most commercial guys will point you to the Toro/Exmark because they have been making a commercial ZTR since 1996 and its still the one to beat. It will last for you if you do two things. You may get a better deal at a local hardware or home improvement store. I have been using a Husqvarna 48 lawn tractor and have been very satisfied with it. I live in NZ and have been reading reviews on Zero Turn mowers, checking specs against each other etc, etc,etc. The SS4225 is a good ZTR with Toros good single cylinder engine. They wanted an engine that would last and one where they could do their own warranty approvals. It uses the same commercial deck they use on all the other models. Hi Paul, A 50-52 inch mower has a wider stance so youll feel more comfortable on your slope. Adding a range of accessories allows the gardener to put the tractor to multiple tasks around the yard, a tractor doesnt just cut and collect grass. As simple as this may seem, you could get used to it quicker than you might suspect. Ive taken over an old horse pasture. And the transmissions are not strong enough to pull that cart with more than 200 lbs in it. Although the engines are mostly of the same company, the air filter system of the Toro TimeCutter is a little down the chart in quality as compared to the Cub Cadet. These mowers will give you a much longer life. Should I be considering someone/something else? We have a dealer here that undercuts the prices, but their service and customer relations is poor. Walker brand ZTRs can typically handle steeper slopes because of their low center of gravity. About half of this area is a long wide slope in the front (well under 13deg that Deere warns about). Im now looking to replace that mower with another last mower. The Jonsered tractor is actually a 2014ish Craftsman Yard Tractor. Hi Randy, The XT2 gives you taller wider tires, 2800 hydros, thicker handles, comfy seat, and a reinforced deck. recommendedNo-Spill 1405 2-1/2-Gallon Poly Gas Can. One of the signature traits of the Toro TimeCutter is the ease of getting on and off; theres a little gap right at the front edge of the footplate for you to place your foot in for a step. If you ever have any issues with it and you bought it from your local dealer you will get a lot faster service. I was looking at the exmark radius 48 but they dont offer the kawasaki engine with them, do you know anything about those engines that exmark is using in their radius mowers. . toro puts in their commercial mowers. The layout of the yard leaves me with multiple pie-wedge corners when I mow around the outside of each section. 2. The only time I lift them up is if Im off using it to pull a cart around in the timber where there may be stumps or rocks to hit. You are using an out of date browser. My Exmark Quest 42 which is the same as the MX4250 has the ZT-2200. Also mowing the higher grass takes a lot more power and the batteries may not be able to mow that 1.5 acres all at one time. I was also able to drive a zt1 50 at a cub dealer but he told me I could not engage the pto as then it would be considered used. I am strongly leaning toward a DR Leaf and Lawn vac for fall and spring clean up and am concerned with weight of that being pulled by the mower. 2. Both Cub Cadet and Toro offer many feature-rich zero-turn mowers. If the non pro Gavely units were part of the 20% off deal, I might go that route as the dealer is 5 or 6 miles from the house. I think I have narrowed my choices to the Toro MX5075 and the Ariens IKON XL. There are a ton of accessories available for tractor mowers easily converting them from mower to workhorse. 5. Im trying to decide between a Toro 48 TimeCutter HD with MyRIDE (75211/75210) and a Gravely ZT HD 48. Take, for example, the Cub Cadetits powerful engine is one of its most appealing qualities, and without it this mower would be a shell of its current self. The FasTrac is more in line with the mowers we are discussing here though. Can ride or flip up foot stand and convert to walk-behind (NICE) (Since I review mowers I like to keep a fairly new unit here) $3500, 200 hours, very well maintained. I can tell you Ive had my Cut Cadet Ultima ZT2 54 for 2 1/2 months now, and it rocks! If you let your lawn get over 10 inches you may have to go back over areas to get a clean cut. More recently, he has been showing up with a Scag zero turn, with a slightly larger deck. It uses the ZT 2200 transmissions BUT, with the one-inch axles, the way the Walker is designed, the center steering, and the low center of gravity you will never have problems with them. Do you think ZTRs would handle this? However, I like the 60 inch deck for the price and also the fabricated deck. You have to go up to the Toro Timecutter HD, Cub Cadet ZT2, and Ariens IKON XL to get the larger 2800 trans. What is your experience with robotic mowers? Personally, Id go with a little heavier machine. If you dont want to go through the Home Depot your local Gravely dealer sells the same mower under the Gravely brand. He's also an entrepreneur who owns and manages multiple helpful websites. I would like something in the 48 inch to 52 inch cut range. Id go visit each dealer and buy from the one you trust the most. I need something more maneuverable than my tractor. I read everything you wrote about ZTRs, heck I even created a spreadsheet that shows, brand, model, engine, HP, transmission, deck type, deck size, and price. Johnss fluff-free How-to guides help homeowners fix lawnmowers, tractor mowers, chainsaws, leaf blowers, power washers, generators, snow blowers, and more. How does the Big Dog Alpha compare to the others you reviewed? I can spilt and mow separate days if need be. Loncin and the manufacture that makes MTDs Powermore engine are exceptions. They both have the best cut. I really ran across this URL of yours [I think]as a matter of the odds of just browsing, at times, painfully. Looks like the stripes would be off with the deck hanging out past the wheels so far. Hi Paul, I think my earlier attempt at a reply went astray. Here is my review: Cub Cadet hauler Ill put a picture below. (You can raise the deck vertically once its on the trailer so it doesnt take up as much room.). Heavy 7 gauge deck (apparently the same deck/frame as Bobcat). Its smoother than the 7000 series and has a larger air cleaner. Thanks Paul for the quick response. I want something that will last me a very long time. While it is possible to purchase durable air filters to prevent the problem, its a little inconvenient nonetheless and because of that, the Cub Cadet wins this round with their powerful and durable engines. The models I list here cut great, bag well and have great parts and service networks. Because of that brand recognition today the dealer can charge more (and make more profit.) 2022 LawnMowerForum.com. I wish they didnt have so many mowers to choose from because it makes deciding that much harder. The lap bars are very adjustable to fit your driving style. Both are heavier duty than the ZT2, have better decks that will cut better and faster, however the Apex is only a few hundred more so is the best choice in my opinion. The small front casters will make it ride rougher than many of the other mowers in that price range. I recommend the comfort seat and trailer hitch options. In all seriousness, thank you for helping me cull out the Deere and the Hustler, The Bradley is probably just too much of a pipe dream considering the distance to any dealer and fear of swimming that far from shore without a life jacket. For the Toro, the following are popular accessories: For the Cub, these accessories are often bought: To know more about the accessories that are commonly purchased for mowers, read this post. Are there any inclines present? Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed. Motor repair on commercial mowers can range anywhere from $1000-$4000 for 60-inch commercial zero-turn. Take care. I will check out the dealer and go from there. I just think the Deere is a more refined machine, and it looks it. Stay away from the $3000 TRs with 54-inch decks the ZT2500 transmissions will also fail. Thank you. When we need parts and service, I imagine we may end up going to Tractor Supply well see. The Toros and the ZT X use the ZT2200 transmissions. Toro TimeCutter MX Series MX5050 Zero Turn Rider 74774 (50): $3200 If you are going ANYWHERE near a ditch you need a 60 inch or larger ZTR and the angle should be less than 15 degrees. What is your preference between the Kohler 7000 and the Kawasaki FR engines? Hydro-Gear ZT 3100 transmission. Other fuels stabilizers to check out: Fuel Stabilizers. Any suggestions? Yes, the engine is made for Toro by Loncin. Be aware ZTRs even the ones in this price range are lawn mowers. P.S. Finally, I am a little concerned that your local dealer cant get a CA compliant mower. Thanks in advance! The Deere you are looking at uses the Intek. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. I have about 1 acre of mowable grass. It will easily last you 10 years or more. So let me go quickly through some of the options youve mentioned. When I first researched this a couple of years ago, I found your positive comments about the Husqvarna Rider mower, and thought that might be an option. Toro and Cub Cadet both offer really good parts availability and local service. I bought an MTD from HD 14 years ago and I mow about 1 1/2 acre. I have lower back issues. Hi Mike, The Ariens APEX and Gravely ZT HD are the same mower (just different paint) so if you have a Gravely dealer you may get a better price than the Ariens. Paul YouTube. 48-52 Heavy-Duty Fabricated Deck 5-7 Acres, 48-52 Heavy-Duty Stand-On Fabricated Deck, You can find a lot more information on the 48-52 inch ZTRs here: 2022 The Sixteen Best 48-52 Inch Zero Turn Mowers, 54-62 inch Fabricated Deck Up To 3-7 Acres, 54-62 inch Heavy-Duty Fabricated Deck Up To 10 acres or more, Ariens ZENITH 60 Kawasaki Model 991158 Kawasaki FX730V engine 24 hp/726cc Find Your Local Dealer: Ariens Dealer Locator, You can find a lot more information on the 54-72 inch ZTRs here: 2022 The Sixteen Best 54-72 Inch Residential Zero Turn Mowers. Today the Kawasaki FR is the oldest engine on the market. Hi Paul, I was looking at this one from Home Depot: I live in the upstate of SC, have a mixture of cool season and warm season grasses, and I try to control the crabgrass, dandelions, and other weeds. I have narrowed my choices down to the Ariens Ikon XL 52 (for its rugged build), the Toro Timecutter with Myride 50 (for the ride) and the Ryobi 100 ah 42 (for the quiet operation and the cost savings over time). But I do know the mother of one of the Cub Cadet higher up personnel that could probably run interference for me on warranty repairs if need be. Manage Settings You should not use Gator Blades for SIDE-DISCHARGE. We can get the veterans discount at Lowes and Home Depot. Q: What are your thoughts about transmissions with and without charge pumps? While its a good mower a rough lawn will shake it apart sooner than all the others Ive mentioned. Do you have a preference between those 2? The Walkers best feature is its agility when trimming. Both companies are renowned for producing reliable machines that withstand the test of time. Also, think about which dealer you feel will help you out the best down the road. The XT2 should give you 10 years of service if you do the normal maintenance on it and dont let teenagers try and wreck it. I know you really like the Toro units. TodaysMower.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, and we get a commission on purchases made through our links to Amazon. What Im looking for: Reliability, ease of maintenance, attaching and detaching bagging and mulching kit, cut, easy to handle, one user, 42 deck, budget around $3k and willing to spend around $1k for accessories (mulch kit and bag) Being a small yards I doubt I would benefit much from features or comfort so thats not important. I attribute that to the uncovered engine and its close proximity to the operator, and perhaps to the fact that the engine enclosure basically directs the sound straight up right in back of the operator. Its been a great cart. It has a very low center of gravity and I believe you can adjust the weight of the deck to give it even more traction if needed. Hi James, The John Deere uses both the Intek and the ELS Briggs engines in various mowers. If you own a large patch of land, the Cub Cadet will serve you well for a long time. Or Bagger for 42 inch Fab Deck. Probably not but if your property is rough, has slopes greater than 10 degrees, you want to get done as quickly as possible or you have teenagers who are learning to use a zero-turn then it is worth moving up to the XT2. I noticed you ranked Walker as the best mower. Not going to pull much or do much ground work with it. Cub Cadet ZT1 42E zero-turn mower will mow up to two and a half acres on one charge and the lithium-ion battery can be quickly charged to any amount if you have "just a little more" lawn than that. Remember the 2018 will have the full warranty the used 2016 will not have the same warranty, if any. I like having my weekends free for fun time. The Toro V-twin is proving to be a very good engine so it really doesnt matter if you get one with the Kohler or Toro. (Its been flawless) It also has a fabricated 42-inch deck. But at the end of the day its irrelevant the Bradley looks more than durable enough on its own,. The Confidant Series has the same commercial quality as the old Command Pro engines. It will last many, many years. I just want to make the best choice I am not stuck on any one brand. 1. Hi Adam, The ZT2800 is considered high-end residential the ZT3100 is considered low-end commercial. Thanks for your time. This steering wheel model is heavy enough to go up the hill and the front steering wheels will help to keep it on the slope. There are no other differences. The smaller ones are top-heavy, wobble around on rough ground, can be very tippy and dont have good traction on rough ground or slopes.

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